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13 August 2013 @ 03:09 pm
Friendships in the Whedonverse  
How does Joss model male-male friendships in his works? Does it feel similar to female-female friendships?
Barbrahirah on August 14th, 2013 03:07 pm (UTC)
Hm. Joss seems to think that male/male friendship inevitably destroys itself in conflict. The most prominent male/male friendship I can think of is Wesley and Gunn, and they end up fighting over Fred. And while Angel and Spike are many things to one another, they'll never be friends. Angel and Wesley always struck me as too unequal to be a friendship - Wesley was looking for a father figure. But they end up at odds as well, albeit not over a woman. On the Buffy side, Xander and Jesse ends with Jesse getting staked, and Andrew/Jonathan/Warren ends with Warren betraying them and then later, Andrew killing Jonathan.

Beckyjoans_journal on August 16th, 2013 12:22 am (UTC)
Good points.
ginar369ginar369 on August 15th, 2013 11:42 am (UTC)
Giles didn't have a male friends unless you count Ethan Rayne who turned him into a demon. Xander hero worshiped Riley who had feet of clay. Spike's was really the only one who had a friend, Clem. And even that wasn't a close friendship. Gunn eventually left his friends when they became hardline demon haters.
Beckyjoans_journal on August 16th, 2013 12:23 am (UTC)
Good points. What about Riley/Graham/Forrest?
ginar369ginar369 on August 16th, 2013 10:49 am (UTC)
I never got the feeling that they were good friends. It was more like they were friends because they had no other choice. They were in a secret branch of the military and couldn't tell anyone their secret so they had to be friendly with each other or be alone. Forest was turned into one of Adam's puzzlemen. Graham tried to be friends with Riley, he even came to help him when he got sick. But friendships in the military are tricky. Especially if they are of different rank. Can you really be friends with a superior officer?